You need new people to associate with. I'm a mommy and don't discuss my children unless I'm talking to their teacher, a very close friend, or family back stateside. I'd rather discuss the news, archaeology, history, et cetera.

I understand you. Every single friend I have except for two has children. Most of them got pregnant here (I've heard that Spangdahlem has the highest military birth rate in all of USAFE and I believe it). One of the two friends who has no kids is currently trying to get pregnant and it's all she can think about. I've discovered, the women my age who have kids (ie they have young kids) can't separate themselves from it even in conversation (with a few exceptions). My two closest friends here are in their 40's. Their kids are either teenagers or grown up. They have long ago mastered the art of having interests outside of their kids.

Ok, so I guess my point is the young parents and first time parents seem to be harder to be friends with, as a woman without kids. But the ones with older kids seem to embrace that child-free time more.

I have two sets of friends. Those with kids...and those without. I love both groups to death. My kid-friends all understand that if I can't make it b/c I don't have a sitter...then I can't make it. They don't call me a zillion times & beg me to come, and then leave me off the guest list because I had to cancel on an event last minute b/c something kid related came up. And they are okay if they see me in the same pair of yoga pants 3 days in a row...and show up with no make up & a purse full of diapers & ziploc baggies of cheerios. Sometimes we discuss our kids...most times, we are just glad to be together, so we all talk at once & I could be talking about a raging yeast infection & no one would hear me.

My kidless-friends are spontaneous & wild...they don't have a husband calling them every 10 minutes to ask a kid related question while we're out having fun (when he's here, my husband does not call me unless someone is near death...and my mom is the same way when she sits for me). We can all pile into one car, without going back & forth with carseats...and then being left to sit in that funk that happens under the seat. They are excited about my kids (I am the only one who has them right now) and can't wait to squeal over pictures like it's the first time someone has caught their kid getting into their makeup or on a swing.

IRL, I don't have any close friends with kids, so I dunno how that one actually goes.

As for those without, I'm pretty much left out of most things that require a baby sitter, regardless if I have/can get one or not. But other than that, they go wild over Aria, and she usually participates in the activities as best as she can. We went to a barbecue, and everyone decided to play guitar hero, so she grabbed the controller and started pushing the green button. She laughed so hard at the end of the song.. xD Point is, my kid is always involved in just about everything. Sometimes its nice, sometimes its not.

I''m okay most of the time having the kids come along when we watch a movie or go to dinner. But it always ends up being a "Lets educate the kidless girl on what being a parent is like" They tell me about all of the things i can expect and the things that they wished someone had told them before they got pregnant..which I would appreciate..if I had any plans to have a kid. It just gets frustrating.

it doesnt matter to me cause i dont pick my friends based on if they have kids or not. plus i talk about other things too but i guess that just comes along with having a personality. one thing i cant stand is when my kid free friends try to school me on how to raise my kid. its like stfu.
im just grateful to have a good friend that ican trust and we have mutual respect. doesnt matter if they want kids or not, if theyre gay or straight, or if theyre single or married. i dont know why people really give two shits anyways.

i don't pick my friends on whether or not they have kids either..obviously. Or I wouldn't have so many friends with kids. I was just saying that I was frustrated that at this base i seem to be the only one not wanting to have a kid, and am the only one who doesn't want to talk about kids 24/7.

I don't think anybody was talking about choosing friends based on whether they have kids. We were just talking about the frustrations that come along with being either the only child-less woman in the group or the only mom in the group.

Anyway, I don't mind when my mom friends bring their kids, if those kids are well-behaved. I know all kids have bad days, but some are just spoiled brats. I find myself skipping over the friends with super-brats because I can't stand to be around undisciplined kids.

well i was saying that from the perspective of a mom. i thought the whole issue is you feel left out because moms would rather socialize with other moms? if so that kind of is what we were talking about. i didnt say you picked your friends that way. besides even if you did how would i know that? you never said that. there are some people that pick their friends this way. just saying some of us moms are different from the boring idiot ones.